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Shocker: Conservative Fox News Guest Tears Up Conservative Lies About Chevy Volt

Clean Technica -- Their conservative guest, Lee Spieckerman, CEO of Spieckerman Media, a self-described “drill, baby, drill guy,” debunks every single right-wing myth about the Volt, noting:
I love Fox news, and I feel like I’m kind of attacking my own family here. I love O’Reilly, I love Neil Cavuto, I love Eric Bolling, but like a lot of my fellow conservative, they seem to have kind of a fetish for demonizing the Volt.
They are perpetuating the myth that the Volt was some kind of Obama administration green energy fantasy that as you say was forced on General Motors during the bailout.
It’d been in development two years before Obama was elected. And it was championed by… Bob Lutz, who is a conservative and a climate change skeptic. So you know it’s a myth.

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Submitted Mar 29, 2012 By: eromitlab

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1006 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,105 Points:1,356,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 3:42:57 AM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse you have the idea
gawxnative All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:510 Points:229,965 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 4:42:35 AM Ignore gawxnative Report Abuse Blame everyone (but themselves)
1006 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,105 Points:1,356,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 4:41:26 AM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse the crap is flying . enough blame to go around
geminijax Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:16,836 Points:2,729,250 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 9:35:08 PM Ignore geminijax Report Abuse Gnusman53: "after the GOP crashed the economy, all credit froze..." ROTFL! Now there's a totally baseless statement. Gnusman53, I'm guessing you have little or no experience when it comes to financial/investment matters. Am I correct? BTW, investing in mutual funds doesn't count as real investment experience. "As to why not selling more" That's because the Volt has smaller capacity (strictly 4 seater and less trunk space) compared to it's rivals, and yet it's price is higher. The potential cost savings from less gasoline usage will take a long time, in most cases, to pay off the higher cost differential.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 5:19:57 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Clermont40miles, LOL, you obviously hit the liberals nerves! Great post! None have answer for this: Comparing Volt to an F-250 and an Escalade? REALLY? Try this: Total cost to own a Honda Accord for 5 years $41,219 Sticker price for a Honda Accord 2012 LX Premium $23,180. And you'll get a lot more car with the Honda Accord. Some people will do most anything to prop up this joke called the Volt.
JediKnight Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,848 Points:2,034,735 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 7:31:41 AM Ignore JediKnight Report Abuse Some of the issue is probably... "I'm talking about what I know." and "I don't know what the VOLT really is..." so if it's more expensive then a regular ICE vehicle and means I have to install a charger in my Garage or run an extension cord to it once and a while... well that's so inconvenient. Plus, Somehow people complain about "Coal" (Dirty Power Plants) but don't seem to have any problem with all the "Vampire" Devices living in their homes... not to mention forgetting to turn off the Lights/Fans when not in a room. Add to that lame ideas like US Senator Tom Coburn "hoarding" 100 Watt light bulbs because he somehow can't "see" with an alternative bulb. Poor guy hasn't heard of newer LED light fixtures/bulbs while a bit expensive up front but perform almost identically to an Incandescent Bulb (Dimmable, Full Spectrum Incandescent Bright light) saves MEGA money by using virtually no power and can last for Decades. Barring that Senator Coburn doesn't realize that there are newer Incandescent Bulbs replacing the traditional 100Watt etc. that use less power while still provide that "Traditional" feel. Until people realize the Volt is just another example of the Future and let go of the old ways... Hybrids like the Volt will remain expensive and less adopted then the "Popular" choice... not because it's "better" but because it's what you "know".
calypso93 Champion Author Scranton Posts:11,213 Points:1,292,835 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 4:17:13 AM Ignore calypso93 Report Abuse I'd still buy a Fusion hybrid before a Volt. I believe they're cheaper.
1006 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,105 Points:1,356,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 8:08:07 PM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse think twice
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,459 Points:2,231,875 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:22:07 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse gatekeepertwo - Excellent question. If conservatives are so patriotic, why do they promote dependence on foreign oil sources, instead of promoting conservation and development of new sources of energy that will strengthen this country? Or is it just that they can't stand that a Democratic president might get some of the credit? Though us4usa also has some good points. Why is GM apparently so incompetent at designing decent cars anymore? Maybe they need to get rid of ALL of their top management. clermont40miles - "EV's trade oil burning to coal burning. With the greenie EPA shutting down coal fired power plants, the price and availability for electric power will "necessarily skyrocket." Except that we've got plentiful and cheap natural gas to replace coal. Not to mention solar, wind and other renewable sources. Not to mention that the Volt is a hybrid, not a pure electric. So its range is only limited by the amount of gas in its tank, just like any standard car.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,013 Points:600,660 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 10:14:59 AM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 5:05:39 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Maybe clermont has heard about something called the sun. Solar arrays have been used to power up EVs for awhile now..... About five years ago I remember seeing a retiree convert a VW bug to be an EV..... and use a solar array to recharge it..... AND THAT was in Seattle. And in some places, the primary source of power is hydroelectric.... Some electric utilities are even offering the choice of power generated from renewable sources......
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:55:40 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse BTW..... complaints about Volt "range" is a joke. Since you could drive one across the country.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:52:25 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse As to why not selling more...... easy.... after the GOP crashed the economy, all credit froze... (and that includes credit for buying a car).... it is just starting to barely loosen..... but credit is still a big problem... Simply, car purchases have been like a hose with someone parking a car ontop..... water still comes out of the hose.....but not as much as there should if the car wasn't on the hose..... BTW, Caddys and Corvettes cost more... than the Volt.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:46:28 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse So far, there has been no "spontaneous" ignitions/fires in a Volt on the road. ONLY reported cases are in a holding lot after the Volt was TOTALLED in crash tests.......
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:43:51 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Now for some facts...... Volt was not intended to replace pick ups or suburbans.....(although Newty discovered there are gun racks for them)....
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:40:45 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse So clermont thinks a foxlover is an evil double agent... but then forgets to note that even the feckless himbo clown from F&F was agreeing with him.... (grin)
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,021 Points:1,114,370 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:35:32 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse so many factless Faux fetishists floundering in their fantasies here (grin)
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,588 Points:1,774,820 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 1:55:23 AM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse The discussion has been very rich. The Fox News bashing brought to you by Clean Technica, Think Progress and Climate Progress -- and supported here by the same. EV's trade oil burning to coal burning. With the greenie EPA shutting down coal fired power plants, the price and availability for electric power will "necessarily skyrocket." EV's are totally incapable of replacing internal combustion engines cost effectively on a large scale. They are specialty cars. The price and limitations are clear for those who choose to see. The emperor has no clothes. Green is red. .
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,875 Points:1,359,675 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:27:29 PM Ignore comprof Report Abuse us4usa: Very good post.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,003 Points:1,115,215 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:37:54 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse The odd fact is they only sold 7,xxx , if this car is that great one would think it should sell... Sure you can say Fox is to blame, but there are more fox haters then 7,xxx supporting the volt... The numbers do not add up, lets say EVeryone that likes fox , votes Red or lives in a red state hates the volt... Then look at EVeryone that haters fox votes blue or lives in a blue state loves the volt... So where are all the lovers and supporters for the volt, not at the dealers buying them??? Maybe this car is so great its not ready for prime time??? Next year only 7,xxx out of MILLIONS of people, why??? What could it be??? Look at some facts about this car. $39K and up four seater 35 miles EV range 32 MPG gas Premium gas required If the goal is to go green... Toyota Prius "V" REGULAR gas $26-$29K MPG 41... EV LEAF 90 mile range $35-37K... And screw OPEC I'm all in...
gatekeepertwo Veteran Author Wilmington Posts:389 Points:187,120 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:16:15 PM Ignore gatekeepertwo Report Abuse I had a similar question as Bob Lutz who is responsible for the Chevy Volt. Why do conservatives think it is a liberal idea to get away from the jerks in the Middle East and in Venezuela who like bashing us while gouging us with high prices? It should be that whatever makes America great and independent is conservative. The knock against liberal ideology is that it favors policies that reduce independence and reduce the motivation to get off of handouts. So if we make better non-gas vehicles in the future is that not a conservative idea?
wild3bill Champion Author New York Posts:2,546 Points:1,687,340 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:15:09 PM Ignore wild3bill Report Abuse DUMB te best cheapest= free source of heat waste heat from the internal combustion engine.The Volt uses the battery to heat seats but with the high price an oldfashioned heater from the cooling of the internal combustion engine is not included in the Volt desigm!
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,553 Points:690,005 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:03:30 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse ok
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:58:25 PM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse Fox noise can go to hell as far as I am concerned. This propaganda spewing so called News organization has no credibility on just about every issue the American people value.
txkrb Champion Author Texas Posts:1,563 Points:639,965 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:57:52 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse I too am tired of all the criticism for the Chevy Volt Like the article states Design was started long before obama was elected The tax credit was approved while G.W. Bush was in office put in The GM bailout was approved while G.W. Bush was in office The Volt is not for everybody and it is overpriced But as a second car for a family for commuting to work and school it can suffice Hopefully the price will come down and the range will increase and I am a conservative who voted for G.W.Bush and I did not vote nor will I vote for Obama But lets stick to facts and stop the name calling etc The far left screams this then the far right screams that and nothing gets done
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,077 Points:802,635 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:55:39 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse He can have the credit for it..
jessek Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,657 Points:1,280,490 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:54:49 PM Ignore jessek Report Abuse DustyHorse: Exactly!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,334 Points:1,534,725 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:53:43 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The Volt is garbage.
blk911 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,923 Points:771,115 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:52:44 PM Ignore blk911 Report Abuse Not for me.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,098 Points:1,393,795 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:52:08 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Make all the excuses you want but the problem with the Volt is that it costs too much and does not have enough range PERIOD
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:49:54 PM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse The Volt is built out of a Cruze and we all know that car is a piece of crap like the Cobalt & Cavalier it replaces.
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,417 Points:2,910,710 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:47:38 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse The VOLT sucks
cheap59 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,240 Points:963,770 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:46:09 PM Ignore cheap59 Report Abuse Cost to much and doesn't go far enough.
eric2theem Sophomore Author Riverside Posts:105 Points:30,155 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:45:45 PM Ignore eric2theem Report Abuse 1991 Honda HF
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,635 Points:3,497,630 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:42:58 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The car is too expensive and does not go far enough on a charge and still uses gasoline.
eblair54 Sophomore Author Missouri Posts:143 Points:437,750 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:38:54 PM Ignore eblair54 Report Abuse I think it's a great car. Too bad it's way out of my price range. Hopefully, like HDTVs, it will come down enough in price for me to afford one someday.
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,768 Points:2,468,535 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:38:05 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Still don't want one.
woburnspotter2 Veteran Author Boston Posts:480 Points:172,405 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:37:23 PM Ignore woburnspotter2 Report Abuse Here is a shocker: Greens in Clean Technica blast Fox . . There is a lot to be said here about how they twist numbers by comparing apples to oranges . . 5 year cost of volt verus a heavy duty pickup truck . . . . . besides the point of the 5 year cost comparisson line . . just about when the batteries will need to be replaced (3 to 5 year life?) . . .some estimates come in as high as $10,000 to replace batteries in an electric vehicle! Yep - buyer beware. I'm sure it will work for some folks - just watch the maintenance costs. . . Good luck!
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,080 Points:1,734,140 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:35:08 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse you can't even listen to the radio without lowering the electric mileage significantly how dumb is that?
Hop1LA Champion Author Baton Rouge Posts:3,324 Points:1,178,445 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:33:12 PM Ignore Hop1LA Report Abuse Repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,866 Points:1,615,135 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:32:29 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “Recent science supports the conclusion that oil is a naturally renewing resource. How many dinosaurs do you think there WERE anyway?” Oh my, I suppose this comes from another devotee of Faux Noise. There is extremely limited scientific support for abiotic oil, which is probably what is being referred to here. Oil is derived from ancient plant material, as is coal. Although an occasional dinosaur might be in the mix, animal carcases are not a significant source of oil.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:32:18 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse it was initially being built as a prototype car until the administration demanded that it go into production
rwsb30 All-Star Author Dayton Posts:559 Points:112,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:31:29 PM Ignore rwsb30 Report Abuse Just more redneck whineinhg.
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,490 Points:1,232,000 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:31:17 PM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse All ready bin there on this article...
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:26:41 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Livedream - "Amusing article -- Even better is the logical and honest observation by GreenAstro -- "Escalade 5 Year Total Cost to Own $76,001 F-250 5 year Total Cost to Own $57,529 Volt 5 year Total Cost to Own $40,444 So, you are shortsighted if all you look at is the initial cost of the car, for the 5 years that most people own a car the Volt is cheaper. ========================== What load of bull feathers! LOL. Comparing Volt to an F-250 and an Escalade? REALLY? Try this: Total cost to own a Honda Accord for 5 years $41,219 Sticker price for a Honda Accord 2012 LX Premium $23,180. And you'll get a lot more car with the Honda Accord. Some people will do most anything to prop up this joke called the Volt.
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,390 Points:880,715 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:20:57 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse What lies? Lies like that the Volt has only sold 2000 units after a trillion Federal dollars having been put into the project?
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,003 Points:1,115,215 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:20:37 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse agr964: us4usa - You can't compare the cost of a car to an SUV or truck. They are totally different vehicles that serve different purposes. It's like justifying the cost effectiveness of a truck by saying it costs less to own than a bus. Compared to the 5-year cost other similar vehicles, the volt is at best, a wash (until it comes time to replace the batteries). If you read GreenAstro post that is what he/she did??? You could say the truck cost us money, I say the truck makes us money, the SUV saves us money...
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,610 Points:690,125 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:13:56 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse balony
skyking19 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,006 Points:1,701,540 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:09:06 PM Ignore skyking19 Report Abuse Any guilt surfacing here?
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,398 Points:699,905 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:07:42 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Do I smell another election issue? Billions wasted of technology that is "Over priced" and "Not ready yet"?